This article provides insight into how to troubleshoot and fix issues with hot and cold water systems and adjust their elevations using 3D modeling software. The author demonstrates and details the process of adjusting the elevations, deleting and trimming connections, checking the height of pipes, splitting pipes, dragging and repositioning elements to avoid clashes, and finalizing the adjustments to the system.
Key Insights
- The author emphasizes checking and adjusting the elevations of the hot and cold water systems to ensure the connections are in the correct places. This includes zooming in on a 3D view to identify which parts do not fit correctly and need adjustments.
- One of the solutions provided for fixing fitting or connection issues is to split the pipes. The author advises that splitting the pipes in two places and deleting the short portion in the middle can prevent the systems from reconnecting after adjustments are made.
- The article also stresses the importance of double-checking the system in 3D view after making adjustments, highlighting potential issues such as clashes with the roof of the building or other pipes, as well as the need to discuss changes with architects in certain scenarios.
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In the previous video, we finished up all of our drops and everything for our hot and cold water system. And now I want to go ahead and let's go back and take a look at our hot and cold water system.
I know that when we adjusted some of the elevations, we probably had some issues with maybe where the connections are either down here or where the hot and cold water connect from like the second floor. So I'm going to go and zoom in. I'm in my 3D view.
So you can see, you know, this just doesn't obviously work. So the easiest way to kind of do these is just kind of delete the hot water is actually still connected. We're good there.
We can actually leave that one, but I'm going to go ahead and delete that. I'm going to go ahead and trim those together. And there we go.
And then in plan, I can go ahead and bring that together and do that. We could go ahead and probably fix this here too. We'll take a look at that in section.
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You can see down here, I have some issues, so we may need to raise up our lines here. So I'm just going to drag a window here, delete the fittings trim here and here, here and here. These pipes were here.
We're at 11 foot. So I'm going to take these and I'm going to move them to 11, six. There we go.
And we'll have to double check it in section real quick. And everything here looks okay, but I do want to check. You can see how this has like a lower roof here.
So what I want to go ahead and do is I want to double check that it looks like it's a little bit above the roof. We may need to clean this up. So I'm going to go to my level one ceiling plan.
I'm going to grab my working section here and I'm going to make it deeper a little bit. Again, I'm going to come over here. I'm going to rotate 90 degrees so I can see both of these pipes.
So let's take a look here and it looks like, okay, so what we can go ahead and do, whoops, I didn't want to do that. So in my level one plumbing view, let's see here. Oh, I need to go to my level one ceiling plumbing.
So make sure you're in your level one ceiling plumbing. Let's see here. Will this work? Let's see.
Can we do this? Oh, that'll do it there to there. So I'm just using that trim extend multiple. You could just use also the single version for this.
So let me back up. I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to go trim extend single element here to here and then here to here.
Perfect. So you can see it makes our fittings and puts everything in there. Great.
I'm going to close my inactive views for a second, and then just to clean up my list of views here. Let's go ahead. I'm going to go back here and check this.
We're going to check where our main is coming in. Double click into it. So you can see that we're sitting a little bit actually above the roof of the building.
We don't want to have that happen. So what I'm going to go ahead and do is I'm going to do a WT so I can have both my plan and my section showing at the same exact time. So WT is a window tile.
You can also do it by going here view to tab views or tile views. So WT we did the tile views. So what I need to do is I need to obviously bring the pipe down.
And then once it comes into the space, go back up. So I'm going to go ahead and split these pipes. So under modify, I'm going to use split and I'm going to go ahead and I like to split it like this.
So I get a slightly larger gap, but splitting it where I do two splits. And then I have the short portion of the middle allows me to drag a window over this, and then I can just delete. And then I have a larger gap and we can make, you know, we can, you can have whatever you want there.
If you use just this, if I just do just a single split, if I just do this and this, it will leave me a gap. The problem is, is it's a very small gap. And in some types of fittings or connections, it may actually reconnect these systems back together when you delete that.
So just something to be mindful of. I've had it happen to where if I just do that and I delete it, it doesn't, it, when I delete out the portion in the middle, it gives me the, it reconnects all the pipes back together. Now my section view, I'm going to go ahead and grab this.
I'm going to drag it down. Now let's see what we get. So nine, five, let's go ahead and make this nine foot four.
We keep it a nice elevation above and here, nine foot four. We're going to go ahead and bring these guys back to about there. And then here, what I could do is when I want to reconnect these, I just, in my plan view here, all I can do is I can just drag that pick there, drag that pick here.
And there we are. Now you may notice that the ceiling here is a bit higher than what we are. We don't want to take this up too high because then we're going to change the height of the entire system.
We don't want to go up and down too much. We may, in this instance, want to talk to the architect and go, Hey, architect, we need like some kind of soffit here. We need to lower the ceiling.
We need to do something. You know, there's a lot of space here. And I think this is a pretty high ceiling.
What I can go ahead and do is if you hover over this and tab select, I can say, okay, this ceiling is at 12 feet. So I could ask for just a soffit. I can get those pipes up to 12 feet, but we're going to go ahead and leave it as is for right now.
Okay. So there's that. Uh, let's go back to our 3D view real quick.
What else do we need to take care of? Let's see here. We need to come up and take a look at this and take a look at this here. So I'm going to go to my level two ceiling plumbing.
There we are. I think I could just take this guy and I could just drag it over and let's take a look at our 3D. It's a little bit tight and it is clashing a little bit.
We could space the pipes out a little bit differently if we wanted to. I think the easiest way in this instance to fix this is just to switch the location of the hot water and the cold water. When we drew this, right, we kind of did it a different way.
Now there's two different ways you could do that. I could just grab this and bring this back and there it goes. And it allows that to be together.
If I wanted to stack them to one side, I could go ahead. If I wanted to stack them to one side, I can go ahead and grab both of these and slide them over to, if I wanted it to be tight to that wall, you can see I can grab that. So again, it's just changing how the order of these pipes are.
If I want to take the hot water, I could take this hot water. I can go farther out. There we go.
And it seemed like everything worked there. I didn't get any errors or anything like that. So a lot of times you can just adjust the pipe similar to that.
Other times you may adjust the pipe. It may mess with some of the fittings or something, and you'll need to clean up some of the other connections. Let's take a look back at our 3D.
And I think we're sitting pretty good. We may need to clean up down here a little bit. Those are all good.
So in this instance here, there really isn't an easy way for us to do it. We're just going to have to go up and over and that's fine. So let's go ahead and take a look at that.
So let's go to my level one ceiling. That's on my level one. I'm going to grab that section, this little working section I have down here.
I'm going to drag it over. I'm going to rotate this 90 degrees. Bring it down.
There we go. I can go ahead and double click into my view here. Let's see here.
I'm actually in the view. I'm right here. So sometimes that window tile is a little confusing.
Let's make this a little shorter just so I clean this up this view a little bit. So I see that I need to split and change this around. So I'm going to split it in the plan view.
So I'm going to do a split there, do a split here, but delete that and delete that. Now in this view, I could take this and go up and I can move it. Let's go ahead and move it to say 11 foot 4. Now, since I split this, I could grab this and I can go and take this up and go 45 degrees.
So I'm going to go to an angle of 135. The problem here is, is that that's not really going to fit for my system because of my reducers and everything. So I might need to move this up.
I can move this up to 11.6. Will that get it high enough? Let's see. Not quite. So because we're using these fittings and all this other kind of stuff, this transitions, it needs to either go higher or we need to have this at a different angle.
I'm going to go ahead and go to 11.8. Let's go ahead. There we go. And then in this instance, I'm going to draw a pipe and I'm going to draw it down at 135 and I could trim it up here.
And there we are. I could bring this back if I wanted to shorten that length. And there we go.
We've avoided that clash. Perfect. Let's go ahead and save our model.
And there we go. So let's go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and close my inactive windows. We finished our hot and cold water system.
I'm going to close this section so I have just my 3D up.
