Explore the technical process of tagging fixtures in a detailed construction project. Learn to overcome obstacles like undefined tags, adjusting view ranges, and implementing filters for optimal project presentation.
Key Insights:
- The initial phase of tagging fixtures in a construction project involves defining the tags. If a tag is undefined, it can be populated in the edit type.
- Adjusting the view range is a key part of presenting construction projects. This is important when showing underground lines or other specifics that are not readily visible in the default view range.
- Applying filters can enhance the documentation phase of a project, especially in the terms of MEP work. Filters can help in distinguishing between underground and above ground components, ensuring more clear and effective communication.
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So to continue on, what we need to go ahead and doing is we're going to start tagging some of the fixtures and everything that are here. So what I'm going to go and do is we have our sinks that are in the classrooms and everything. I'm going to hit TG to tag those.
And what I can go ahead and do is just hover here. Now you'll notice that when we first tag it, there's nothing associated with it. And that's because the tag has not been defined here.
So what I'm going to do is I can either populate it in this edit type, I can go ahead and go to type mark and go s one, apply. Okay. Or what I could do is I could just Oh, there's no tag there.
Okay, I know it's my first thing. So s one. And it's going to ask if you want to change the type parameter.
This could affect many elements, that's fine. Yes. And there we go.
So I'm going to go TG again, s one. And again, just go through and tag all these. If you feel like you want to go through and tag them, and then go ahead and you can adjust them all later on.
Or if you want to adjust as you go, that would be perfectly fine, too. I tend to just kind of want to get the tags in there. There we go.
And I'm not the greatest huge fan of having the tags be perfectly straight, coming down the element, I always like to have a little bit of an angle. The reason being is it won't get confused with any other lines that are in the project. There we go.
I'm not going to again tag anything in the bathrooms. So sometimes you may need a tab select to find your tags, I don't really need to move all these classroom tags out of here, there isn't a whole big reason to move those into the white space, even though I could see as long as now it doesn't really want to snap. Sometimes the snaps decide to show sometimes they decide not to.
There we go. And that's pretty good. So let's go down here.
So this one's a little different. So what's the difference between these two here? And here? I might have just not tagged the proper one. So what's happened is because we there it is.
So what happened was, and that was kind of confusing for me right off the bat, because we had already populated the type mark, right? Well, there is still a plumbing fixture from the linked architectural model being shown here, we didn't turn those off. So that's what I initially tagged. What we want to go and do to avoid that is we're going to turn off the plumbing fixtures from the architectural model.
So let's real quickly go to my view template. And you may have gotten the tag off the off the first bet. But let's go ahead and still continue to do this.
Under plumbing floor plan. I'm going to go under my Revit links, I'm going to go to my display settings here, I'm going to go to custom model categories. And then select custom here and find a plumbing fixtures and hit apply.
So the architect is still determining those and those locations, but we don't want to see them. We want to see our fixtures. So there we go.
So that'll kind of help us to make sure that we're not that we're tagging the appropriate item. Don't want to tag floors. Make sure there's a lot of little stuff in there.
So make sure that you get the right thing. Let's move that over. We can go ahead and I'm going to continue on which is the sinks for right now.
So there we go, get the snap, get the sink. We possibly could combine these tags, you could say, hey, I want to do that. And then I want to continue on.
But these are kind of farther spaced apart. So I kind of like to just have separate tags. There we go.
And those are all good there. When I go to this toilet here, I'm going to go ahead and this will be WC1 for Water Closet 1. And then here, we'll go ahead and name this V1 for Vanity 1. And actually, you know what, we're going to change this to S2. This will be just a different sink.
There we go. So make that S2, Water Closet 1. Same thing up here, TG, Water Closet 1. And that will link back to our schedules. And then S2.
And if these tags are kind of sitting on top of walls and things like that, it's not necessarily the worst thing in the world. I will say that it does make it a little bit unreadable. So maybe possibly I decided to make take this break room out, I move this toilet over a little bit.
And I kind of get a different location for this guy. It's not the end of the world. If like the plumbing tags and everything are showing up again, the architectural model is half toned.
If the plumbing tags are over walls, things like that, not the biggest issue in the world. But there it is. Perfect.
Let's go down to the first floor. So Plumbing Sheet View, TG. Let's go and do these sinks.
So you just keep working your way around. Tagging does take some time. You know, this documentation phase is the modeling is all fun and everything.
And the documentation is fun too. But it does take a little bit of time to get everything kind of how you want it to be and how you want it to be readable. I think that's the most critical portion of this is making sure that these elements are readable and that the documentation makes sense.
You know, you don't want these tags really be overlapping with other tags or other items as much as you can possibly avoid it. There we go. We'll do this one over on this side.
No sink in that classroom. And again, the architect may come back and say, hey, we want to sink in that classroom, then we'd have to plumb to it. And we would have to tag it and go through the same process.
So a lot of times, consultants and plumbing, plumbing MEP consultants really like to make sure that the architect is completed with all their changes, everything that is needed, all those locations that they need are defined before they really start their scope of work, because we've done a lot of work right to go ahead and get, you know, our sanitary lines run, our hot and cold water lines run. And having to go back and rework that and change that is a lot of effort. So I'm going to keep continuing.
And in this time, I just ended up going through tagging everything and now coming back and adjusting the individual tags. There we go. There we go.
And I think we're pretty good. We will tag the items that are within those spaces when we get there. So what I want to do is the one thing that we're not seeing here, though, is going to be our underground plumbing.
Now, there are a couple of different ways of doing that. Sometimes people like to split that onto its own view. In this instance, we're just going to go ahead and keep it on this view.
And we'll have some visual styles that we'll use to go ahead and represent it differently. So what I want to go and do is I need to adjust this view range real quickly. So I'm going to go to my view template.
I'm going to go to my view range. Let's see here. Where are you? View range.
There it is. Edit. And I'm going to make this like negative six feet.
So maybe we want to go well, maybe negative four feet. Let's go negative four feet and see what happens. And apply.
Okay. Apply. Okay, so we've changed our view depth to be that negative four feet.
And you can now see, again, we got to kind of balance these tags out a little bit. And it's always it's always a battle. As you add more and more data, you know, you'll have to add and adjust your tags and things like that.
Now we can see this, but I really want to start to see it be represented differently. And the reason being is I kind of want to see a dash to let people know, hey, this is underground stuff. I know I have the dashed out for the vents lines.
That's perfectly fine. But what we want to go and do in there really isn't a way to do that, in the sense of if I had above ground stuff working. So what I want to end up doing is I'm going to create a filter.
Now filters can be a bit of a confusing thing. But they are very powerful to use in the terms of documentation and in terms of MEP work. So what I can go ahead and do is I'm going to go back to my view template.
We are going to go to the VG overrides filters. I'm going to go ahead hit edit new because we do not have this filter created yet. We have some rule based filters that this this comes in sometimes with the template.
The office that you're working with may have a bunch of filters that they already use for this kind of stuff, maybe set up in their template. But we're going to go ahead and create a new one. So I'm going to go new.
I'm going to go ahead and just name this UG pipe or underground piping. Okay, I'm going to scroll down and find pipes in my list here. We just need the pipes.
I want to go ahead and now I choose from a list of parameters from those pipes. So I'm going to go pipes. Now, it's kind of has changed over the course of the year.
So your list may be a little bit different depending upon what version of Revit that you're in. But what I want to go ahead and do is, is I'm going to go ahead and choose really one of these. They have this low end bottom elevation, low end centerline elevation.
These are kind of a newer thing. And the most recent version of Revit. But what I can go ahead and do is I'm just going to take lower end centerline elevation, or actually, you know, we'll take the upper end.
Let's see centerline elevation. And I'm going to go is less than and I'm going to type in zero feet dash zero inches. So I have a listing here, but and I don't see zero feet zero inches here.
But I want to find the pipes is less than zero feet zero inches. I'm going to go ahead hit apply. That's the only thing I need to do hit OK.
Now I need to add that filter to this here. So I'm going to go add UG piping, hit OK. Then I'm going to override the line.
So lines over right here, I'm going to override this, the pattern, and I'm going to go ahead and make it this dash 16th of an inch. Okay, hit apply. And hit OK.
So and then apply, hit OK. Now when I look at these underground lines, you'll notice that they're that way. So I can go through and tag these TG.
So I have my wastes. And you may want to tag some of these other ones. There we go.
We don't need too many tags, though, because these isn't changing size too terribly much. We might need to make some of these a little bit larger, though. Let's tag this guy going up through here.
Come and tag this guy here. So what I'm going to do is now that I see that, you know, these are kind of small, I'm going to select some of these larger pipes here. And I'm going to go ahead and make these eight inches.
There we go. So I want those to represent this eight inch waste. Those are a little larger where all these are coming in.
Let's see. So it's just kind of a balancing act with all of these. You could tag these if you want to.
You'll notice that that three inch waste going off, that is going to be at the angle of the pipe. There we go. If I didn't want that to be at the angle of the pipe, if I adjust this guy here, you'll notice that if I just adjust that leader line, I can go ahead and get that to be to represent like that.
So I can drag it over here, there, and I'm still using the attached end option. If I wanted to be a little bit more, you know, specific with it, I kind of like how this is working out. It's always a little bit of an adjustment.
There we go. Let's move on a little closer. You can also apply slope to this, right? If I go under annotate, and I go spot slope, there we go, I can give a slope there.
And I can tell people that, hey, this is sloping an eighth inch over a foot, annotate spot slope. Theoretically, I could do this too. I can move it around a little bit.
If I want to, you can also shorten it. If you need to, you can grab the grips and move it around. There is no really keyboard shortcut for spot slope, you could set your own, but by default, it does not have a value.
An inch. There we go. Okay, we're sloping pretty good.
Awesome. Let's go to the second floor. So you can see here, we've moved it down.
And we're we are seeing that above head stuff. We don't really have too many long runs here. And all this vent are all the piping and everything is stacking here, right? So what I can go ahead and do is I don't really have anything to tag here.
But we are seeing some of the first floor. So let's take a peek here because we're seeing this there. So let's see if we can get our view range minus three.
Apply. Okay, apply. Okay.
We're still seeing this, because this is within that view range. But if I go back here, yep, I still have that. Let's go back to our view range.
Oops, let's go back to our level two view range. And we're still seeing it. We'll fix that here soon.
Let's pause this video here. We'll come back and we might have to kind of play with the view range a little bit. What may end up happening? Let me see if let's see if I change it here to zero.
Does it go away? So it does go away in that instance. But the problem with that is is that we lose it here. Right? So what I'm going to end up doing is because we need to have a look, we want the overall visual styles to say the same of these views.
But we need to have some differences in the view range. So I'm going to go into my view template. And under my view template, you see this checkbox for include, I'm going to uncheck view range.
So I can kind of adjust the view range per view. I hit apply it. Okay.
Now on my first floor sheet, I'm going to go edit my view range here. And let's go ahead and make this negative four feet. Apply.
Okay. I didn't lose my tags, which is really great. So something goes in and out of your view, you don't necessarily always lose your you don't lose your tags or anything like that.
I saw when I just want to tag real quickly to want to tag those guys that are coming off, I got it down there, I didn't get up there. And then we can go look at our level two plumbing sheet. And you can see that those pipes are not those pipes are not showing up.
And that's because our view range here is still associated level level two. So that is one way to go ahead and do that is to not include your view range in that. But if I look at this listing here, I still have include across all these other items, the only one I've unchecked is view range.
So I can adjust that view range slightly per view depending upon what I want to show. Great. Cool.
Let's go ahead and stop this video here and I'll see you in the next one.