Fixing Modeled Elevation Issues in Copy Monitor: Plumbing Fixture Alignment & Gas System Setup

Resolving Modeled Elevation Discrepancies in Copy Monitor: Adjusting Plumbing Fixtures and Setting Up Gas System

Explore the intricacies of copy monitoring in fixture modeling and understand how to handle common issues that arise such as inconsistent elevations. Also, learn how to create a gas pipe network, modify its properties, and give it a distinct color for easy identification.

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  • The article provides a detailed explanation on how to handle elevation issues when copy monitoring fixtures. This often happens when different fixtures are modeled at different elevations, resulting in them not being in the same plane.
  • It illustrates the process of manually adjusting the position of all fixtures in the entire project, moving them until they intersect with the desired point.
  • The article also guides on creating a gas pipe network, including modifying its type properties, setting a material, making necessary calculations and assigning a distinct color for easy differentiation.

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In the previous video, we went ahead and copy-monitored our fixtures, but we have a little bit of an issue. And this is kind of one of those things that can sometimes happen when you're doing copy monitoring.

And that's kind of why I like to highlight this. Again, copy monitoring is a great tool if everything works perfectly. In theory, it works wonderfully, but sometimes that's not always the case.

And the case that we have going on here is that these are not modeled at the same elevation. If I were to look at the families, I probably have this guy modeled at a certain elevation. This guy's modeled at a separate elevation, and it's going to kind of give us an issue.

That's why you can see our sinks are not in the same plane. So there's an easy way for us to fix that, but it kind of leaves us open to the idea that it leaves us open to the issue that we're going to always have things in our copy monitor review. It's okay.

We're going to go ahead and make the change that we need to now. But in the future, you know, you may want to maybe manually populate them or adjust your family so that it populates correctly. What I'm going to go ahead and do is I'm going to go to my plumbing floor plan, my number one plumbing floor plan.

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Hopefully you have a working section somewhere around that you can grab and move, go ahead and grab and move it so that it's kind of in line with one of these guys here where that sink is. I'm going to go to this section. I'm going to go ahead.

I'm going to go into here and I'm going to select this one. I'm going to right-click on it and I'm going to select all instances in entire project. So that's going to select every single one of these 40 fixtures.

Your number here should read 40 and I can go ahead and I'm going to do it from this view and I can move it up. So what I'm going to do is I have every single one selected. So again, I'm going to hit escape to deselect.

I'm going to select one. I'm going to right-click, select all instances in entire project. You should have roughly 40.

Now what I'm going to go ahead and do is I'm going to go to my move command. I'm going to select the bottom of the fixture here, the bottom of the top of that lip there, pick there, and then I'm going to take it up and I'm going to move it up until it intersects with this here. So three feet up pick.

Now you're going to get a little error that says coordination monitor alert, relative positions of two fixtures changed. That's okay. I'm not going to worry about that.

We've got it kind of in the right position. If you want to, you could go through and kind of align these. Let's see here.

Select all instances in entire project. Let's see if I can move this to where, let's see if we can get a good reference point. There we go.

There's that to that, and that moved them all. They're a little bit different. Let's go to our 3D view and we're looking pretty good.

So again, that's just a difference in how the two families are modeled. And that may happen if you're doing this type of fixture, because you might be using something that is what you're actually going to specify. The architect might be using something generic.

It's kind of one of those things, but there we go. All of our fixtures are done. Let's go ahead and save our project.

And there we go. Before we move on to the next steps, I want to talk about, now that we've brought in some fixtures, let's talk about some piping systems. So one system that we don't have is that we want to go ahead and input a gas system for our, for our hot water heaters here.

Well, we don't necessarily have a gas system, but I'm going to go to my floor plan plumbing one. I'm going to come over to here and we're going to say that the gas line's kind of coming in here by the water, right? We need to put a gas meter and all that kind of stuff. So, but first we need to create a gas pipe network.

If I scroll down, I'm going to go down to my project browser under families. I'm going to go to piping systems. If you expand out piping systems here, you'll see, we have a whole bunch of different piping systems.

So these operate just like families that have type parameters. But this is what populates that list when we create a pipe. So what I can go ahead and do is I can take any one of these.

I'm just gonna take the other. I'm going to right-click it, then I'm going to duplicate it and I'm going to rename this. You can hit F2 to rename or right-click rename.

I'm going to type it gas. Now let's go ahead and rename. That's actually natural gas.

And there we are. Let's look at the type properties real quick. If I do a right-click, I'm going to go to type properties, graphic overrides.

You could set a material if you wanted to, other kinds of calculations and you can set many other things. The graphic overrides, we want to go ahead and change this because we want it to represent, there is no color on this right now. We want to give it a specific color so that we know when we look at the screen, it's our gas line.

So I'm going to go to color and let's go ahead. We don't necessarily want it to be the dark blue and green is typically reserved for your sanitary lines. We're going to go ahead and go with like a cyan.

Nice. Okay. Okay.

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Tyler Grant

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Tyler Grant is a BIM Manager a Delawie. A dedicated, goal-oriented, and experienced architect. Tyler has managed multiple design/build BIM projects from inception to construction completion, through all phases. Technology-driven and experienced educator to train and instruct users, both novice and advanced, in the workflow and processes of the modern architecture, engineering, and construction field. 

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