Creating a Shaft Element for Ductwork Coordination in Revit

Creating Shaft Elements for Ductwork Coordination on the Second Floor Plan in Revit.

Delve into the process of using the Revit Project Management tool for managing the intersection of architectural designs and plumbing models. Learn how to effectively use the shaft tool in the software to create more accurate models.

Key Insights

  • The article outlines the process of creating a shaft using the Revit Project Management tool to accommodate the intersection of ducts in a second-floor plan.
  • Creating cut sections through the shaft allows for defining the proper constraints of the shaft element, ensuring the ducts are accurately represented in the model.
  • When making changes to the ceilings, it's crucial to modify the ceiling's boundary instead of deleting it, as the latter can cause problems with the host elements in the mechanical and electrical models.

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Hello and welcome to the CAD Teacher VDCI video series for Revit Project Management. In the last video we took a look at the coordination between our plumbing and architectural models and we're going to do the same thing but we're going to take a look at the second floor plan. So looking at the second floor plan you can see there's some ducts that are penetrating the floor right here, so we might want to look at putting in a shaft element.

So I'm going to take a look at the second floor ceiling plan and see how far these actually go. So looking at the ceiling plan here it looks like there's actually an element that'll need to be cut out right there as well, so this seems like a good opportunity to put in a shaft element. So I'm going to go back to my second floor plan and we're going to use the shaft tool in Revit to create this.

If we go to our architecture tab all the way to the right here you can see we have opening and then shaft. So I'm going to go and select it and we want to make sure and make this large enough so it'll fit both of the ducts. So I'm going to use the rectangle tool to start and I'm going to start it from the edge of the corner of the duct here and then I'll bring it out and I'm going to make it a little larger than it actually needs to be and then I'll resize it a little bit later.

Okay so now that I've got the good size I can go ahead and cancel the rectangle command by hitting escape twice and then I can adjust the lines to be just a little bit larger than the duct space. Okay looks good. I'm going to go ahead and finish the sketch.

Okay and now I want to go ahead and cut a section through here so I can actually define the proper constraints of the shaft element. So I'm going to go to the view tab section and cut a section through this shaft area. It doesn't need to be as long as it defaults to so I'll just drag it in a little bit so we're not seeing as much as many elements.

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Okay so we can see our shaft element here and it looks like it's going from level one up to a unconnected height of 20 feet and that's not actually what we're looking for here. It doesn't need to cut through level one because it looks like those ducts are just traveling up through. So what we want to do is we want to go ahead and adjust it and I'll go ahead and move it up so that it's right at level two here and then bring it up through just before it hits the roof.

So right now we have that same problem we had before with our ducts only showing as two-dimensional lines. So I'm going to go into my visibility and graphic overrides and then into Revit links and I'm going to adjust my mechanical model so that I can adjust the detail level to be set to fine. Okay and that will allow me to see the ducts that I'm actually creating a shaft for.

You see that right there? And I can see that the shaft is created the way that it needs to be. It looks good. So let's take a look at it in our second floor ceiling plan.

So it looks like we may have accounted for it earlier on with this is a just a filled region to kind of show a rough size of the ducts but we're going to take that out because we don't need it anymore. And looks like we have our shaft opening and it looks like our ceiling may have been cut out to better meet that. And so let's go ahead and adjust our ceiling so that it's right on the edge of our shaft and doesn't have a weird notch kind of like it does right here.

So whenever we make a change to our ceilings after we've distributed this model to other consultants we want to make sure that we don't delete the ceiling but instead select it and modify its boundary because when we delete it the host element for the elements that are hosted to it in the electrical and the mechanical models will be lost and it could cause some problems in their files. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to select that ceiling and you can see here we've got the ceiling and that's our shaft element so we're going to modify our ceiling to match the shaft. So I want to select the ceiling, hit edit boundary, and then I'm going to adjust my ceiling to match that shaft element.

Okay and you know we actually don't need to adjust it to match the shaft element because the shaft will cut it for us. We just need to remove the unnecessary lines use trim extend to corner to clean that up and then the shaft should take care of cutting out that that gap for us. Okay so I'm going to go ahead and finish the sketch and this view right here is in wireframe which we don't need to see so I'm going to go ahead and change it from wireframe back to hidden line and now you can see we've got the shaft cutting through creating an opening for our ducts.

Okay and everything looks good. Lighting looks better. Now let's go back to our second floor plan.

If we were to look at this in elevation and I'll just drag my section line up and flip it around so I can see but right now we have we actually have ducts. Oh didn't go far enough. So what happened there is when I moved my section the view extents were not quite to the to the duct.

You can see this blue line here that represents the view extents. So I'll just need to drag that down a little bit so that we can see the ducts but you can see that that we have open ducts here within the within the open office area. We're going to want to change that.

So I'm going to go back to my second floor plan and we'll need to draw we'll want to go to our second floor plan. Here we go. We'll need to draw a wall around that area there so that we don't have exposed ducts.

So I'm going to go to my architecture tab. I'm going to go with wall and we're going to use that interior four and seven eighths inch partition and so because our defining point is going to be the finish face interior of this wall I'm going to change my location line to match that. So right now it's set to finish face exterior.

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Michael Wilson

Revit Instructor

Bachelor of Architecture, Registered Architect

Mike is recognized by Autodesk as one of North America’s leading Revit Certified Instructors. He has significant experience integrating Revit, 3ds Max, and Rhino and uses Revit Architecture on medium and large-scale bio and nano-tech projects. Mike has been an integral member of the VDCI team for over 15 years, offering his hard-charging, “get it done right” approach and close attention to detail. In his spare time, Mike enjoys spending time outdoors with his wife, children, and dog.

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