Mastering Copy Monitor for Walls in Linked Revit Models to Enable Accurate Sweeps and Modifications

Learn how to use Copy Monitor in Revit to duplicate and manage walls from linked models, ensuring accurate hosting for sweeps and consistent element coordination.

Navigating the intricacies of wall construction, this content delves into the process of adding a wall base and other elements in a linked model as part of a construction design. It further provides a detailed instructional guide into copy monitoring, a crucial function that permits elements to be copied from a linked model and used as a host, while also providing a notification system for potential changes in the linked model.

Key Insights

  • To add a wall base or other elements to a linked model, a host is needed. This can be achieved through the 'copy monitor' function, which allows you to copy elements from the linked model to use as a host.
  • Copy monitoring also offers a notification system. If the linked model is reloaded or relinked, notifications will alert the user if elements that have been copied through copy monitoring have changed.
  • Copy monitoring requires attention to detail, especially when dealing with walls. The process involves ensuring wall types match to maintain the correct wall thickness and avoiding unexpected changes to the wall type in the architectural model.

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Now we're going to take a look at adding a couple of things to our walls. First we're going to look at adding a wall base, but to do that, because we have a linked model, we need to have a host that we can put this sweep onto, and so we're going to take a look at an option here which is called copy monitor, and that allows me to copy in the linked elements. So in our case here are the walls that we see here, and that gives us the option to be able to use them as a host, but it also will give us notifications if they change in the linked model.

If we were to relink the model or reload the model, we would see that there were changes because it would notify us that the elements in those that have been copied, copy monitored, would change, and we'd get a notification when we open the model. In our case that's not going to happen because we're going to keep it all the same, and we're really just using it to give ourselves a host element that we can modify or use for sweeps and profiles, things like that. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to go ahead and jump into my 3D view, and I'm going to just close hidden windows because I've got a lot of windows open, and sometimes it can be a lot.

We'll jump to 3D view here, and I'll zoom in, and you can see here's our link that we have selected here, but I can't actually touch these walls unless I hit TAB. See how it does that? And the benefit here is that those aren't necessarily part of our model, but they could be. And so I'm going to change my work set from finishes to interiors because I want all those elements that we're going to copy over to be on that interiors work set.

And then I'm going to go to our collaborate tab, and then I'm going to find where it says copy slash monitor here, and then we'll go to select link, and then I can pick the link which is our architectural model, and now it becomes active, and I could actually start copying elements over right now, but since we're doing walls, there's some special settings for walls that we want to make sure that we take care of. And so I want to go to options here, and you can see we've got levels, grids, walls, and floors. And so when I go to walls, you can see it's going to show me many wall types that are being pulled from that architectural model, and then it's showing me new types here, which what this means is that if I copy monitor over a exterior glazing wall type, it's going to make it generic eight inch.

To me, that makes absolutely no sense, so we definitely want to change this. So I'm going to go through, and I'm just going to change these to match. So exterior brick on metal stud, and I know for sure that we're not using all of these, but it's just a good practice to be in to make sure that you're not going from exterior glazing to generic eight inch, because you will end up with a different wall type.

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And specifically in some of these cases where you've got walls that have a pretty complicated and thick assembly, and then you're going from, this is probably like a 16 inch wall down to an eight inch wall, and that would be a big difference in your plan. So you want to make sure you're getting these things updated to match so that you also have walls that are the same thickness. So I'll just grab these other ones here.

Let's get your CMU on metal stud, and then the infamous exterior glazing. Our generic eight, that's an easy one. And then our four and seven eighths partition, which is all of our interior walls.

And I'm going the wrong way here. There we go. And then storefront.

So I'll just double check to make sure that these all match. Looks good. I'll hit okay.

And now I can click copy. And what I like to do when I do this is I'll just kind of work my way around the plan. So I'll pick it, and you can see it shows now I've got two walls on top of each other.

And then whenever I have a storefront like this that's embedded in the wall, I like to pick that one first so I don't miss it. And then I'll pick the wall that it's hosted into. And then like I said, I'll just kind of work my way around the plan.

And I'll swing back and get all the interior walls. And so this one we've already copied over. It was the first one we did.

But if I tried to do it again, then you'll see it'll give me a warning saying, hey, this has already been copying. So stop existing monitoring to copy again. And so I'll just grab these ones on the ends and kind of work my way through the interior here.

And again, remember, if I accidentally click on one that's already been copied, it'll let me know. You'll get a couple of these warnings every now and then, and it's fine. We'll resolve those in a second here.

Okay, I think I've got them all. And one way to tell is after I finish this copy monitor here, I can go in. And if I were to go to my visibility graphic overrides in my 3D view here, I can actually go into my Revit links.

And I can turn the walls off in this link. And then if there's any walls that disappear, that means I missed one. And so I can go ahead and say by host view, set this to custom because this will allow me to then set these different tabs to custom.

If I were to click model categories, you can see it says by host view, but I just want that to be custom. And then now I have access to all the different categories here. And so I can hit W and it takes me down to walls and uncheck that and hit okay.

And then now when I look at it, I can see that all the walls have been copied over. And I'm able to see that doesn't look like I missed anything. So that is good.

And that was a good way of double checking. And now we have these two storefronts that we need to address. And so if we go to our modify tab, and if I use cut here, this will allow me to cut those openings.

If I click the host wall first, and then my storefront, you can see there it is right there. And same thing here. And I missed it.

And so now I've got the window walls are shown here, they may not look the same, which is fine. And then the last piece was we had a join geometry error on that one. And I'm going to go to my floor plan.

So I can see it a little bit better. And you can see that there's something going on here. And it looks like an extra wall got created.

That's vertical there, I'm going to delete that. And then this wall didn't quite join correctly. And so sometimes you just got to click on that endpoint to get it to join.

And it'll be as difficult as it wants to be. It's pretty common sometimes. And if you can't get it to join, which I'm having that same issue here, we can take a look at how we can get it to sit on this face.

And so I can see it's sitting on that edge there. So go back to my floor plan here. And I can actually bring this back.

So that sits on the face of the wall, so that it's not sitting within like it was before. And so here's kind of the same situation where we want to just move it back so that it's sitting more on the face. And then what I'll typically do is I will try to use a trim tool to trim extend a corner.

And that's the TR keyboard shortcut. And this looks like a wall opening, which we'll take out. And that would fix the join.

But it didn't get our door correctly here. If I were to go to 3D view, you'll see that there's just a weird opening there. And what happened here is when we did the copy monitor, the to create the opening, the wall actually added the opening for the door instead of copying the door over.

So to fix this, what we'll go ahead and do here is I'm going to grab that wall that we copied over, and I'm going to delete it. And we'll go through the process again. And I'll kind of show you where that went wrong, so we can avoid doing that in the future.

So I'll do the copy monitor process again, again, from the collaborate tab using the select link option. And I'll pick the link, and then go to copy. And we're going to grab that wall again, and we're going to get the same errors asking us to unjoin.

And what I've noticed is when I hit escape a couple times to get out of that, you can see that our opening went pretty far. So it's well beyond where the door is. And so as I bring that opening back in to just where the door is, you can see that we've got it set pretty much where we want it to, even though we did get an error saying that we've resized the opening, which we are well aware of, because we just did it.

But it does give us the look and the proper joining of those walls. So I'm going to go ahead and finish that. And then if we look at it in 3D as kind of like our other double check, you can see that it looks correct.

And this is what we're looking for, for this project. So that's the process of copy monitoring. It's a bit tedious sometimes, but if you're working in a linked model, and you need to host elements like wall base and crown molding or chair molding or chair rail or anything like that, then this is the process that you would have to go through.

Be sure to save, and then we can jump in on adding some wall base in the next video.

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Richard Hess

Richard Hess is an accomplished designer with over 23 years’ expertise in architecture, interior, and furniture design. He obtained his Bachelor’s Degrees in Architecture and Interior Architecture from Auburn University before pursuing a Master of Architecture at NewSchool of Architecture & Design, where he graduated top of his class. Currently, Richard serves as the Director of Career Services at his alma mater, while teaching thesis and portfolio courses, equipping graduates for careers in the ever-evolving field of architecture and interior design.

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